he got a historic health care bill through. no democratic president since fdr or senator bog wagner right through truman, right through clinton, put it back on the agenda. obama got it done. it's extraordinary. i think it's important. i think he -- politically he's run into problems and i'm not sure he hanseled the job as a politician as well as others might have, as well as lyndon johnson certainly would have, but i give him good grades. yeah, i'm not surprised. i think that hillary clinton would have done an even better job, but i think he's done fine. >> what about you? >> yeah, i think history will be far kinder to a first-time president obama than a political divisive discussion that we're having right now, you know, you'll look back and say, okay, we got our health care, we got out of the financial cliff we're about to go over and, you know, a horrible financial situation, the economy is now growing again, we handled difficult foreign policy situations with a big of tenacity and wisdom. you know, obama, various things hap